Shilling on his report that the S&P will drop 43% from its recent level:
"The analysts have been cranking their numbers down. They started off north of 110 then 105. They are now 102. They are moving in my direction. I think that is true because you have foreign earnings that don't look good because of recession unfolding in Europe, stronger dollar, so they are translation losses. A hard landing in China. In the U.S., we could see a moderate recession led by consumer retrenchment. I think that that kind of earnings estimate is not unreasonable…it's a quartet, [I am] long treasuries, short stocks, short commodities and long the dollar."
Shilling on the U.S. economy:
"The story is that there is nothing else except consumers that can really hype the U.S. economy. Consumers have been on a mini spending spree in terms of not keeping up. Incomes have simply not kept up. Of course, the real key behind that is employment. It looked earlier like jobs were picking up and that was going to provide the income and people would spend it, so on, so forth. But the employment report that we got last week throws cold water on that. Consumers have a lot of reasons to save as opposed to spend. They need to rebuild their assets, save for retirement. A lot of reasons suggest that they should be saving to work down debt as opposed to going the other way, which they have done in recent months. So if consumers retrench, there is not really anything else in the U.S. economy that can hold things up."
On whether investors will come back to the U.S. market if the situation in Europe gets worse:
"Sure, we are the best of the bad lot. We're the best horse in the glue factory. The U.S., it certainly looks better than China or Europe or certainly Japan. But, I'm not sure that that means that people go into stocks. Cash, although it does not pay anything, is an alternative. My 30-year favorite long Treasury bonds, I we're headed for 2.5% there. They have come down from 3.2 to 3.0 recently. Of course the 10-year now has broke 2% again. I think there is still life there in terms of appreciation…I think that one and a half is possible on the 10-year."
We can perhaps charitably attribute Mr. Kristof's choices in questions 1 and 8 to ignorance about Hinduism. But there is no question in our mind that Mr. Kristof deliberately and wantonly manufactured an "affiliation" to Hinduism in question 3.
In our opinion, Mr. Kristof's action is utterly reprehensible and we throw a flag at him for flagrantly foul journalistic misconduct.
Sideswiping Hinduism - A New York Times Practice?
Frankly, there was no need for Mr. Kristof to include Hinduism in his quiz at all. His article is addressed mainly to an American audience that, according to him, has been subjected to the "current uproar about Islam". So questions about Christianity and Judaism should have sufficed. Both Mr. Kristof and his readers are far more conversant about tenets of Christianity and Judaism than they are about Hinduism.
It is a journalistic practice to highlight what you want to praise by contrasting it with something negative. Sometimes when you can't find anything negative, you manufacture it. That is how Hinduism tends to be be used in the New York Times.
Several months ago, in a nice positive article about the Holy Golden Temple in Amritsar, Lydia Polgreen of the New York Times gratuitously sideswiped Hinduism. It was an article about Sikhs and there was no need, no need whatsoever to even mention Hinduism. Yet, Ms. Polgreen couldn't resist the temptation to insert a defamatory line in her article about Hinduism. (for more detailed analysis, read our article Why Does a Nice Positive Article in the New York Times Carry a Deep Bias Against Indian Dharma?)
We use the verb "sideswiped" to illustrate our meaning. Imagine driving a car in the dead of night on a solitary road without any traffic. You see someone walking down the road ahead of you. There is no one else around. You simply drive closer to the pedestrian and sideswipe him for no reason except that you can do so without any fear of getting caught. You would only do this if you have no respect whatsoever for the life or well-being of that pedestrian and if you have a dark corner in your heart.
This is exactly what Nicolas Kristof did to Hinduism in his Religion quiz above and what Lydia Polgreen did in her article in September 2010. Hinduism is an easy victim. There is no organized religious structure and Hindus are complacent people used to religious persecution for the past 1,200 years. And the New York Times editors seem to have no respect for Hinduism judging from the frequency of anti-Hindu bias in NYT articles.
Directed comments against Hindu Ethos in the NYT
NYT articles don't stop at sideswiping Hinduism. Sometimes, they get very blatant. Let us give you a couple of examples from India Ink, the India-portal of the New York Times.
These are just examples from February of this year. We sometimes get tired of noticing such behavior and writing about it. But the NYT writers don't stop. They must be avatars of an anti-Hindu energizer bunny.
Reaching out to the New York Times
Earlier this year, we contacted Heather Timmons of NYT's India Ink and India Bureau, to ask if she would meet with us on an informal, off-the-record basis. We also made the same request of one of her colleagues. Ms. Timmons did not even bother to respond to our email. Her colleague pleaded difficulty due to a heavy travel schedule.
So we reach out today to Ms. Jill Abramson, the executive editor of the New York Times. We are virtually neighbors, Ms. Abramson and fellow residents of the greatest city in the world that is a bastion of humane liberal thinking. Would you be willing to meet with us to exchange views? We simply don't understand how a great paper like yours can exhibit the bias that we see in it. Or should we simply be resigned to our "Hindu" treatment from your writers?
Mr. Kristof, we appeal to you as well. What we have written about your article is what we perceive in your article. If you think we are wrong, please tell us candidly. We take criticism well. You can tell us privately or publicly. We commit to publish any on the record response from you.
Editor's Note: Below are our previous articles about the anti-Hindu bias at the New York Times:
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On investing in the U.S.:
"It's clear that many people have forgotten that the U.S. is still by far the world's largest economy. Even with its outstanding growth over the last decade, the size of the Chinese economy is only about 40% of the United States. So clearly what happens in the United States has a significant impact on the rest of the world. Right now the U.S. economy is growing. Not as rapidly as we would like but it seems to be good, solid, steady growth."
On investing in China:
"U.S workers are the most productive in the world, more productive than those in other industrial economies and of course, the developing economies. Our economy is doing better. I'd also point out that our financial system in the United States seems to be much further on the road to recovery than is the comparable system in other parts of the world."
On U.S. stocks outperforming Europe and China:
"Even after these rallies, the market offers good value but not as good as it was previously. But our feeling is the next recession is some significant distance off into the future. What we know is, bear markets can be sustained not by the most vigorous of growth but by growth that investors believe will hang on there for quite a while."
On forecasts for this coming earnings season:
"Clearly, comparisons are becoming more difficult for U.S. corporations. Profits have been growing at a very robust pace for more than two years. Margins have been at a peak. And we do think that those numbers will not be quite as vigorous."
"What really matters, though, is whether investors are saying to themselves now, we're looking not just at this quarter but to the remainder of 2012 and into 2013. Investors seem to be much more comfortable about the intermediate term in the United States than they were even just a few weeks ago."
"That is the sign of a continuing bull market. It doesn't mean that the gains from here or the gains we've seen thus far should be extrapolated, but it does suggest that equities will continue to see some positive move. And one of the things, of course, to consider is the relative nature of stocks and bonds."
"With interest rates as low as they are, there are many investors -- especially those who have a long time horizon -- saying returns from equities, even if they're not as vigorous as they've been in the past few months, will probably be better than the returns from bonds."
On the global economy:
"But we also have to recognize that the United States has suffered a significant cyclical beating, but from an innovative standpoint, the United States remains the place in the world with more patents than anyone other, more investment in R&D than any other and the United States has really been the innovative engine for the rest of the world. There's a little rule of thumb used in Silicon Valley, and that is the basic research is done in the United States, the development is then done in Korea but the production is done in China. One of the things our innovation panel has been focused on is how do we continue to keep the United States extremely innovative?"
Faber on whether he's finding more shorts in the equity market:
"In a money-printing environment I'm reluctant to short. But say whereas I recommended investors to increase their positions last October, November, December, now I think that if people are overweight in equities they should reduce positions somewhat…maybe cash. The U.S. dollar is desirable at the present time. And we have to say one thing. The market consists of thousands of stocks and the market consists of many different stock markets globally. The S&P has done exceptionally well relative to, say, emerging economy stock markets, most of which are still lower than they were in 2011. So, if you look at the advance-decline line of all the share markets in the world, then it is definitely being deteriorating. And I happen to believe that money printing will continue and I would probably buy financial shares and I believe that the Japanese market may outperform all the other markets against all expectations in 2012."
On saying that earnings will deteriorate and profit margins will shrink:
"First, I think there are some cost pressures creeping in terms of rising raw material costs, especially energy, and the problem with, say, a QE3 would be that you are doing it in an environment of very elevated oil prices. So, maybe the energy prices would go up more and squeeze the margins of some corporations. And certainly squeeze the consumer. And my sense is that the economy has bottomed out but is far from robust because the typical household is being squeezed by higher cost of living increases. There are various measurements. You can measure the CPI. It is rising by less than 3%. Everywhere I look I see households essentially paying between 5% to 10% more for goods and services than a year ago."
On whether Q2 will be as strong as Q1 for investors:
"I think that if you look back at a year ago we made a peak of 1370 on S&P on May 4 and then dropped sharply to 1074 on October 4. Then we recaptured the lows in November and December. Since then, the first quarter has been very powerful and has surprised investors because of its strong performance. And I think now the expectations are very high. The market is no longer oversold the way it was in December. And everybody thinks that the race is on, go along with equities, the hedge funds have positioned themselves on the long side and optimism is high. I would be very careful at this stage."
On why investors should have caution:
"Basically I think that earnings may begin to disappoint. That corporate profit margins could deteriorate. And I think we still have a lot of issues. Don't forget we have QE1, QE2 and Operation Twist. I think in order to really hold asset prices across the board much more QE3 would have to be gigantic. I'm not ruling out that stocks can continue to go up but I doubt they will go up at the same rate as the first quarter. And if you look at the technical under underpinnings of the market, they have deteriorated. The list of new highs is deteriorating. The short positions are way down. And we have an overbought condition in the market if we measure the number of stocks above the 50-day and 200-day moving average. So, generally I would say maybe April is traditionally still a month of seasonable strength but somewhere in the next six months I think you can buy the whole market much cheaper."
On QE3 having to be "enormous":
"It would have to be very significant to boost all asset prices including homes, stocks, bonds and commodities…Much larger [than QE1 and QE2]."
On why he's not recommending to buy more gold:
"As you know, I have been very positive about gold and I still accumulate gold every month. But I think that we had an intermediate peak at $1921 on September 6 of last year. Then we dropped sharply to $1,522 an ounce on December 29, 2011. Since then we've had a feeble recovery. I think that the correction period is not yet over. I'm not selling my gold because I don't trust governments and I don't trust the Federal Reserve, nor would I trust the ECB or other money traders in the world. They are all going to print money. I still recommend to hold gold."
On bad returns for gold in Q1:
5. 10-Year Treasury Yield ceiling of 2.50% - Jim Bianco & Jim Reynolds on CNBC Street Signs - Thursday, April 5
When he saw the bond market crater after the Fed minutes on Tuesday, Brian Sullivan decided that the Fed was done adding liquidity. First he tried to persuade Rick Santelli to say that on Tuesday afternoon. Then he asked Rick Santelli again on Thursday whether the Fed has given up further QE. He made Rick Santelli answer the question on Thursday at 2 pm just before this clip at 2:05 pm.
But Brian Sullivan was on an anti-Treasuries mission, the mission that seems to drive virtually every CNBC anchor. Not satisfied with Rick's answer, Brian Sullivan turned to Jim Reynolds, CEO of Loop Capital, and Jim Bianco, President of Bianco Research.
The last point is very interesting and could create some trouble in the corporate bond market. Sully, do us all a favor and tell all your CNBC anchor colleagues about this potential trouble. Because they tend to very glib in asking their viewers to buy corporate bonds instead of Treasuries because of the higher yield. They don't know that sometimes in the bond market, when salespeople call the trading desks and say "Sell", the traders ask "to whom?" Liquidity is a massively important and a constantly ignored factor in investing.
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On Gross’s view that we may see a sign from Bernanke in April that QE3 will be rolled out:
"I think [Chairman Bernanke] is very satisfied…I think the Fed is outcomes-oriented. They want an outcome in terms of a higher stock market, in terms of housing starts and lower unemployment. What [Bernanke] said on Monday, in terms of the employment, he suggested that up until now, we've done very well in terms of reducing unemployment but it’ll be tougher going forward if only because of structural impediments that he outlined. Going forward, he's looking at jobs, at unemployment and the housing markets. You know, future QEs will the outcome-oriented type of strategy which seeks to provide jobs and provide higher housing prices and housing starts to continue on."
On the tool that Gross thinks the Fed might deploy in April:
"I have a sense that they'll continue with the Operation Twist, but not necessarily in terms of buying longer-term bonds and selling shorter dated Treasuries. I think that's basically been played out and the pension market itself in terms of liability structure has been damaged to some extent by lower 30-year yields. I think [Bernanke] will try to do is Twist in the mortgage market. Basically, buy current coupon mortgages in agency spaces and then basically Twist by repo-ing out the Treasuries that they currently own in short-term space. So, you know, a twist on another Twist I suppose, going forward."
On the ticker change for PIMCO’s new ETF (to BOND):
"We've noted that for a long time. This is simply a cautionary element that suggests that when interest rates come down close to zero and when the discounting of those interest rates and equity prices and other financial assets produce a perspective of 4-5% total return for the combined asset class is in our view, then it's incumbent upon a manager to keep expenses low and to alert investors as to the importance of expenses relative to lower returns in this new financial world that we speak to."
On investor appetite for PIMCO’s new ETF:
"We wanted to be able to give investors a choice. We recognized the tremendous importance of the retail distribution network for PIMCO and for the Total Return Fund, which is now $253 billion. Thank you very much, we don't to discourage that. But there are investors in the $10,000-$20,000 category, who find it difficult to buy PIMCO Total Return. We thought this would be a good way to do this in the actively managed ETF space. By the way, we're outperforming the market in the first month or so by a good 200 basis points."
On PIMCO's appetite for Treasuries:
"We have an average appetite in terms of duration space. And to the extent that five-year Treasuries, which are being issued today and seven-year Treasuries tomorrow - they reflect a relatively firm commitment on the part of PIMCO, which reflects a relatively firm commitment on the part of the Fed that they'll keep interest rates firm until late 2014. Bernanke mentioned yesterday that that wasn't a commitment in total but it's subject to a relatively slow economy and contained inflation, which is what we see now. A five-year security at slightly above 1%, to our way of thinking, as it rolls down the yield curve and becomes a four-year, produces close to a 2% return and is that a super, deeper attractive type of return? No, it's not….but it's certainly better than nothing."
"We have reduced our Treasury commitment slightly. From the standpoint of duration, we have average duration of an average maturity across the board but we have been reducing Treasuries and investing in shorter duration corporates and rather heavily in the agency mortgage market. You can get, with a Fanny or a Freddie coupon that is a 4% coupon, you can realize 3% as opposed to the 2% or 1% - I mentioned in terms of five-year space. We're really focusing on spread and the lack of volatility going forward for the next two to three years which is really the domain of 30-year and 15-year mortgages."
On finding investing opportunities in developing countries:
"Where is that attractive growth? Countries like Brazil, countries in Asia, China-related of course. These countries don't come without risk. They don't come without a rather volatile situation in terms of inflation or potential currency disorder. If an equity investor is looking for growth, you want to go developing as opposed to developed. Even a bond investor, if you are looking for higher real rates such as in Brazil, you want to go to developing as opposed to developed."
On whether PIMCO will buy Russian five-year notes:
"We're looking at the five-year, not the 10-year or the 30- year. At 230 basis points over the U.S. five-year, that's an attractive situation. That doesn't come without risks. It is a triple B+ type of security in terms of sovereign space and has a history of default going 10, 11, 12 years back. At these spreads and with situation currently, this is an attractive situation compared to U.S. Treasuries."
On buying hedges against fat tail possibilities:
"What we're suggesting now is not an extremely negative possibility. That would be the fat left tail. But also the fat right tail, we've had a fat right tail in equity markets for the past 3-6 months…On the left-hand side, you know, the bi-model possibility in terms of a downturn are simply a reflection of the high degree of leverage, the high degree of debt and the policy coordination which may or may not be helpful in terms of producing this smooth, rather bell-shaped mode or median we're all used to."


Bob Doll’s predictions for the stock market:
"This isn’t a year about economic growth or earnings, it's all about the probability of the left tail risk. How afraid are people? When the stock market yields the same as a ten-year Treasury, people are invested in a very afraid manner. My view is that this year is when fear dissipates some, the crisis premium comes out, the risk premium comes out and that means interest rates move up, spreads narrow and equity valuations move up."
"Our target coming into the year was S&P 1350 plus because our prediction was a double-digit gain in stocks. If Europe stays in the background and behaves itself, we could see a whole lot of the plus and this could be a great year for equities."
"We're not changing our target. We could see 1550, and our target will still be accurate. It's all about Europe, if that left tail risk dissipates. At S&P 1550 stocks would still not be expensive…If Europe continues to heal and the Middle East doesn't blow up, 1550 is do-able."
On why market volume is so low:
On what equities to invest in:
"I still think having a cyclical orientation - meaning you want to own technology, some energy, but I'm not afraid to buy some healthcare either to get some defense in the portfolio. What you really want is companies with good free cash flow."
On bank stocks:
On interest rates impact on stocks:
On QE3:
On today's jobs report:
"It's good number - not just the headline but also the revisions. Also, the fact that the participation rate is going up and some of the structural elements are improving...Overall, a good report. Having said that, it's just indicative of the healing process. We are not yet at escape velocity. We're not yet in a place where the labor market and consumers can push this economy forward.”
On reaching the escape velocity point:
"I wish we were, Betty, but I don't think so. In Europe, we haven't really solved anything. Greece still has too much debt. Nothing has been done to improve the growth rate of European economies. So, in European, all we've done is push back the problem as little but we haven't solved it."
"We have the geopolitical headwinds out there and then when we look at our own economy, we haven't done enough on the structural side and we now have the prospects that the fiscal side is going to be contractionary. Unfortunately, the best we can do right now is just muddle along. We're not yet at escape velocity."
On the jobs being added to the payroll being so low pay:
"First, hourly earnings were 0.1. We need to see hourly earnings increasing a lot more. That speaks to what you just said, which is we're creating only low-pay jobs. Yes, oil is a headwind. We must not forget that it’s a significant part of consumption. Unfortunately, we're going to be at high oil prices because of all of the geopolitical concerns.”
“That's why it goes back to, when you look at different components of demand, it’s difficult to identify the one that will cause this breakout. It's not going to be the rest of the world. They’re slowing. It's not going to be the government. It's not going to be the consumer. Could it be business? Yes. But business has to have better assurances that demand will ultimately go up, otherwise they do not invest."
On whether stocks will rally even if the economy is "muddling through":
"Correct. We're looking at a growth rate just under 2% for the U.S. Within that, you will see a lot of differentiation. The key issues for PIMCO as an equity managers and others is to be able to choose the different sectors and companies. What are you looking for? You're looking for strong balance sheet. You're looking for an ability to put money back to the shareholder. You're looking for exposure to high growth. There are companies out there and our analysts and portfolio managers work very hard to identify them. Yes, you're going to get some companies doing really well and differentiation is going to be key."
On whether we've averted a disaster in Europe:
"Not yet. In Greece, what we've done is, we've reduced the debt stock somewhat, but even at 120% of GDP, by 2020, if everything goes well, which is a big assumption, that's still too high. That is why the market immediately price in a second PSI, or a second debt reduction operation, down the road."
"We haven't solved Greece, yet. Greece will come back. We have Portugal, which has sovereign concerns. We've made progress and particularly, we have made progress for the LTRO. We haven't fundamentally solve the problem of too little growth and too much debt."
On the difference between Greece, Portugal and Italy and Spain:
"We exited Portugal a long time ago, two plus years ago. We've been watching, and the reason why we exited Portugal and the reason why we exited Greece a long time ago is because we are worried about the sovereignty issues. We're not involved in Portugal or Greece. We're watching it and we still think both of them have not been solved. Spain and Italy are fundamentally different. They don't have the sovereignty issues that Greece and Portugal have, and they also have an ability to turn the corner and they have much more support from the European community I would draw a line between Greece and Portugal and Italy and Spain.”
On the stock market rally:
* BTV is our short form for Bloomberg TV
Furthermore, Indian literary history fully embraces the concept of noble ends justifying dubious means. Three texts intrinsic to Indian culture and philosophy help to explain the current business landscape: the epics Ramayana and Mahabarata and the economic treatise Arthshastra.
In both the Ramayana and the Mahabharata, even gods resort to deceit and trickery to accomplish their ends. In the latter, Lord Krishna repeatedly devises "underhanded" methods to defeat the opposing army -- going so far as to encourage the protagonist, Arjuna, to attack and kill an unarmed adversary.
On the price of oil and his Saudi investments:
On investing in Saudi:
"Right now, we have to use swaps. We've been in the market for about three years. Foreigners couldn't actually own Saudi stocks until August 2008. So we've spent quite a lot of time doing our research and understanding the market.”
"[Saudi Arabia] is very sincere in opening up the market to foreigners. It reminds me of India in the 2003, 2004 time period before you could buy Indian stocks directly. Saudi, which is 70% of the G.C.C, and by far the most important, the most liquid market, is something that foreigners are going to want to own.”
"Right now, you can't buy an ETF, you can't buy Saudi stock. It's obviously very difficult to buy a security directly. We have done that. We know that foreigners now are looking at the market. The market is about 11 times earnings with almost a 5% dividend yield in 2012, and that's on an unlevered basis. The Saudis have about $600 billion of reserves and corporates have very little debt. To me, there's a lot of systemic risk in the Western world…[but] in the Saudi market, they've been very restrictive. Banks have not wanted to make it easy to borrow money and buy stocks after the bubble that happened in 2005, 2006."
On tensions in the Middle East:
"If tensions with Iran means oil goes up, then that's good for the Saudi economy but not good for the rest of the world. Fundamentally, if there's a problem with Iran, it's a problem for the whole world…The biggest risk for Saudi is really a risk that the whole world bears, but actually Saudi benefits. Oil goes to $150, $200, it means the economy is going to grow even faster because the government has more money it can deploy in the economy."
"Saudi is not like an overbuilt economy. It's just opening up now. Building is going on. The Saudis are so conservative that they don't lend against land. "
On the European Central Bank issuing more money:
"A lot of the risk has been taken out of the market, on a near-term basis. We're actually quite bearish. The only reason all this liquidity is coming into the market is because things are really bad. It's not because things are good.”
"I don't believe in a global rally right now. It's a bounce back from oversold conditions last year. But I think the confidence in central banking is far overdone. It's hard to fight the Fed when prices are going in the other direction."
"It's hard to know where things are going to go. The point is, just because they're putting liquidity in the market doesn't mean the economy is improving."
On Passport's strategy:
"We’re stock pickers. In fact, this is a great year to be long and short individual securities. In 2008, everything went down. In 2009, everything went up. In 2010, everything moved together and eventually ended up. Last year, things started separating. Our strategy is to be picking individual securities, companies that are not depending on economic growth.”
“Biotech and healthcare is one of those sectors. There hasn't been an obesity drug approved in over 30 years and we thought Qnexa would have a good chance of being approved…We were one of I think four big holders in the stock. We think it can double again because we think a large pharma would probably like to own the company at some point."On investing in Treasuries:
On what equities he likes:
On Apple's share price and Apple vs. RIM:
Gross on whether investors should be looking at mortgages:
On why PIMCO is announcing a new ETF next week that will mimic the Total Return Fund:
Gross on whether the economy and investing environment has improved:
On whether he's changed his position in U.S. Treasuries:
On whether Bernanke's promise to keep low interest rates through 2014 is distorting the bond market:
On whether he still wants to be in Treasuries:
On Leon Cooperman telling Bloomberg TV yesterday that the return on bonds is not worth owning them:
On why Ford is shifting billions of dollars a year from their equity portfolio into bonds:
Our prior winners for the Most Useful Financial Guest Award are:
Frankly, these two were in a zone in their respective years. It is hard to stay in a zone in any business. It is especially difficult to do so in the complex, turbulent, ever changing investing game. Take Meredith Whitney. She was prescient in 2009 but blew up in 2011 with her Muni defaults call.
Our prior winners for the Most Useful Financial Show Award are:
I. Most Useful Financial Guest of 2011
II. Most Useful Financial Show of 2011
No other show consistently performed to these high standards this year. Others may disagree. In fact, CNBC Fast Money, the 2010 winner, might argue that they did this too. And they might be right to an extent. But CNBC Fast Money has a narrow mission and a narrow time horizon. What they tell you on one day becomes obsolete in a couple of weeks and this year, even in a couple of days.
In contrast, the investments of most individual investors are Slow Money and their investment horizon is medium term. For such viewers, for such monies, CNBC Strategy Session did a heroic job in 2011. Look at the evidence: